Curse

Kurow · Sep 19, 2005, 03:21 AM // 03:21

Every human has the ability to feel emotion, but the means to activate these emotions may be hindered, weather it be through natural means, like yours, or through rational thought.

I think i also need to clarify that i do not mean the presence of either hinders the other, but the domination of either does.

Zaklex · Sep 19, 2005, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Avari Zi

I believe part of life is about taking risks, if you supress these emotions, sure you might not feel pain and suffering, but you'll never find the happiness you think doesn't exsist. You seem very aware on the cons, so what does it hurt to try and obtain the pros? It's like being afraid to ask someone out, you already know the worst thing they can say is no.

What if one of your worst fears is being rejected, would that not then make you afraid to ask someone out. If you think this is a joke, it's not, it's just not a fear that I think anyone wants to admit to.

PieXags · Sep 19, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

Screw rationality.

God's not rational.

If God was rational, he would've made humans way of reproducing something like a glowing hand shake, that doesn't make for anyone in the process experiencing pleasure. That way we'd only have babies from parents who want to be parents. But NOOO, God went and thought it'd be awesome for screwing to be pleasurable, and now look at us.

Emotion? Rationality? Who cares if you're rational or emotional? I like to think the only thing that matters are ideas, where that fits in I don't really know.

Avari Zi · Sep 19, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by Zaklex

What if one of your worst fears is being rejected, would that not then make you afraid to ask someone out. If you think this is a joke, it's not, it's just not a fear that I think anyone wants to admit to.

I'm sorry if i offended you, but I did not take this as a joke at all. As for you comment that makes me re-think my conclusion.

chris_nin00 · Sep 19, 2005, 04:00 AM // 04:00

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Screw rationality.

God's not rational.

If God was rational, he would've made humans way of reproducing something like a glowing hand shake, that doesn't make for anyone in the process experiencing pleasure. That way we'd only have babies from parents who want to be parents. But NOOO, God went and thought it'd be awesome for screwing to be pleasurable, and now look at us.

Emotion? Rationality? Who cares if you're rational or emotional? I like to think the only thing that matters are ideas, where that fits in I don't really know.

The Pie knows all.

Link Ironhammer · Sep 19, 2005, 04:01 AM // 04:01

why did u call me Texas boy?

Kurow · Sep 19, 2005, 04:12 AM // 04:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by PieXags

Screw rationality.

God's not rational.

If God was rational, he would've made humans way of reproducing something like a glowing hand shake, that doesn't make for anyone in the process experiencing pleasure. That way we'd only have babies from parents who want to be parents. But NOOO, God went and thought it'd be awesome for screwing to be pleasurable, and now look at us.

Emotion? Rationality? Who cares if you're rational or emotional? I like to think the only thing that matters are ideas, where that fits in I don't really know.

No offense... but i dont think your comment came to any real conclusion about the subject. But on the subject of ideas, what are those based on? I think it is a reasonable thing to say that emotion and rational are the two building blocks that the human mind and its thinking ability is based on. So is it reasonable to say that they are the only things that matter?

Zaklex · Sep 19, 2005, 04:15 AM // 04:15

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Originally Posted by Avari Zi

I'm sorry if i offended you, but I did not take this as a joke at all. As for you comment that makes me re-think my conclusion.

No offense taken, most people don't even realize that you can be terrified of rejection, it's not exactly something you tell everyone. I could go into the elaborate schemes I developed to ward off that possibility but that is beyond the scope of this thread.

Kurow · Sep 19, 2005, 04:18 AM // 04:18

I think that fearing rejection is pointless. Its better to have tried and failed then to know that you passed up a chance.

Zaklex · Sep 19, 2005, 04:26 AM // 04:26

It's a long story and I won't even try to explain it, I know of others who feel the same way, and I didn't say I was still that way.

Kurow · Sep 19, 2005, 04:30 AM // 04:30

I think its best to never have regrets. Sure you could have done X at Y time and it would have been Z good. But you cant change that now, and as long as you have changed for the better, its best not to dwell on the past.

Zaklex · Sep 19, 2005, 04:45 AM // 04:45

My life is full of regrets, and I wouldn't be here today without them.

Kurow · Sep 19, 2005, 06:16 AM // 06:16

I bet you would be better off without them though, what good is second guessing all of your past actions? How can you truely operate under complete confidence like that?

Thanas · Sep 19, 2005, 02:14 PM // 14:14

Is it not possible for rational thought to indirectly lead you to happeniess i.e. the consequences of your rational approach to life may remove you from short term pleasure, but ultimately may reward you with a better quality of life.

The idea of having many sexual partners appeals to a lot of people and would bring them short term pleasure, they are lead by impulsive emotion. However this may ultimately mean that this person will never be able to hold down a proper relationship and be completely happy. On the other hand, take someone who is more rational about life and lives by strict guidelines. They refuse to have many sexual partners and only ever marry one person whom they live with for the rest of their life. Maybe their relationship isn't as passionate as the many brief encounters that the former individual had. However they are content in this situation and live a long fulfilled life.

Kurow · Sep 19, 2005, 04:00 PM // 16:00

Well yes, but with sufficient analysis of anything, its specialness is taken away. Most humans probably wouldnt ever come close to losing emotions based on rational thought and analysis. Like this hurricane buisness, if one were to take it completely straigt and rationaly, then it would not hold any emotion for them.

But i guess in the end a rational mind would see that emotion is needed, and thus suspend its rational thought on matters that werent pressing for their judgement.

wsmcasey · Sep 19, 2005, 04:19 PM // 16:19

What you believe affects what you think. The way you think affects the way you talk. The way you talk affects the way you are perceived. The way you are perceived affects the way you are treated. The way you are treated affects what you believe.

Divinitys Creature · Sep 19, 2005, 05:33 PM // 17:33

Rational thought can prevent you from making a bad decision and causing something bad to happen to yourself or someone else that would cause unhappiness. e.g. you rationally decide you don't need to drive at 90mph to pick up a pack of cigarettes and since you decided to drive slower you avoided killing someone. Rational thought also helps the other way. Thinking about what your girlfriend needs help doing and then doing it = happiness. Crappy examples but hey you probably can think of better ones.

zehly · Sep 19, 2005, 06:04 PM // 18:04

(1) Now it's late enough in the day for me to think about something more complicated than QED;
(2) If I post with the intent of telling you what I really think, I'd be banned;
(3) This is less about psychology than it is about philosophy. Unless you're talking about the actual cause of logic and emotion (neuropsychiatry), this is a matter of philosophy, covered by many known writers.. Kant, Hegel, Locke, Marx, Einstein, Engels, Freud.. the list is long.

Thanas · Sep 19, 2005, 09:36 PM // 21:36

I don't understand what this post is about anymore!!

Kurow · Sep 20, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34

Mmmm... i dont think theres much more to say about it really.

Neither extreme of rational or emotion will ensure you as much happyness as a healthy balance of both. What is that balance? Is it definable? Or even definate? Its probably different for each person. But I sincerely doubt the normal population has a problem with being too rational. So this really is a moot topic.